There is no forest. I checked. The lake was dug in 1994. Almost nobody catches a train here, so the house you are sending to stays shut later than most, and a February bunch on the step is cooking, not waiting. Ours go to doors off the Boulevard, care home reception, a ward at Coopers Plains, for people who cannot be there. Siobhan writing this one. Andrew and I have sent flowers into Brisbane since 2009, off a list started at a kitchen table. Order by 2pm and it is at their door this afternoon.
White Is Not One Colour on the Bench, and a Forest Lake February Can Tell the Difference
Andrew and Siobhan hired me in 2010 because florists were not going to take two people with no floristry background seriously. They were right not to. What I brought to it was the bench, and the first thing the bench teaches you in this part of the country is that white is not one colour. It is a dozen different petal structures that happen to land in the same tonal range, and they behave nothing alike once the air gets thick.
In a postcode running four separate funeral traditions inside it, that stops being an academic point. White is the colour that reads right at three of those four doors, which means white is what the bench keeps getting asked for here, and it has to survive a Forest Lake summer while it does that job.
A white rose and a white chrysanthemum look like near neighbours in a photograph. Put them in the same closed-up room in February and one is finished three days before the other. Archerfield Airport, nine kilometres from the lake, has been logging this air since 1929, and the 9am summer humidity runs between 64 and 70 per cent without dropping away overnight. On its own that is not the danger. Bind that air tight inside cellophane around a bunch that is still transpiring and the pocket next to the petals climbs well past ninety per cent, which is where botrytis starts. Botrytis is grey mould. It sets on soft dense petals first, roses and lisianthus, as a scatter of small brown freckles on the outer guard petals, and once it takes hold the bloom collapses inside a day. A chrysanthemum has a tight waxy petal and almost no surface for it to land on. Ten to fourteen days at 28 to 32 degrees, against one to five for a hydrangea sitting beside it. And if brown freckles do turn up on the outside of a rose, that is fungal and not bruising. Pull those outer guard petals off and the bloom underneath is fine. Most people bin the whole stem.
None of which is true in July. The part nobody outside Brisbane believes is that the winter afternoons here go genuinely dry, 3pm humidity down to the mid forties from June through August, on mornings that drop under eight degrees. It is the one window in the year where a tulip is worth sending to Forest Lake and worth nothing at all in February. Sweet peas the same, with one catch: dry air is what kills a sweet pea, not heat, so a July afternoon at forty five per cent or a room with the air conditioning running will take them down faster than a warm still day would. Buy the delicate stems now. They will not make it through November.
Through the warm half of the year, build white on chrysanthemum, orchid or a white native with leucadendron through it, and let the roses decorate the bunch, not carry it. Leave the wrap loose. A bouquet bound tight in cellophane in this air is a mould box with a ribbon on it.
One thing I will be straight about, because it cuts against everything above. There is published work out of Japan measuring what colour does to people in a room, and yellow and red flowers came back with higher alpha brain activity and better mood scores than white ones did. So white is the correct answer at the door and it is the least cheerful answer once the flowers are inside. Both of those are true and I am not going to pretend the first one cancels the second. Get the door right first. The colour question is the other half of the job, and most people get it wrong on red.
Postcode 4078 · funeral flowers
Four funeral traditions inside one Forest Lake delivery radius
Catholic and Anglican
About 27 per cent of the suburb (Catholic 17.7%, Anglican 9.0%)
Sri Lankan Theravada Buddhist
Buddhism 5.8% of the suburb. The largest concentration of Sri Lankan Australians of any Queensland suburb, anchored at the monastery in Ellen Grove
Vietnamese
8.2% of Forest Lake households speak Vietnamese at home, the second language of the suburb
Hindu
India is the fifth largest birthplace group in Forest Lake at 3.6%, ahead of the Sri Lankan cohort by headcount
Practice varies between families and this is a guide only. Put the tradition in the order notes and the florist will ask instead of guessing. Population figures: ABS Census 2021, Forest Lake (SAL31064).
You are choosing for a room you will never stand in. This is the part no photograph on a website can decide for you.
There is no warehouse off the Centenary Highway sending these out. The flower market at Rocklea opens at half four on a Monday, a florist in or close to Forest Lake buys there, and yours gets built that day. That is the whole model, and it is why we have never owned a van.
* What happens to your order once it lands in the Lily's Florist network.
The deal behind all of that has not changed since the first one. In early 2009 we drove out to Bray Park, west of Murwillumbah, with Asha in the baby seat and a pitch we had rehearsed for the whole twenty five minutes, to ask the woman who owned The Flower Shed whether she wanted our flower orders. We would build her a website. She would get every order that came off it. No fees, no monthly charge, nothing to sign. All we asked was that she put a few more flowers into each bouquet to cover our commission, and she knew exactly what that commission was before she answered. She said yes. Thirty seconds earlier Asha had pulled a trinket off a shelf and smashed it across the floor, which I have always suspected helped.
That is still the deal in Forest Lake and everywhere else, and it is the part worth understanding before you order. Here is what usually happens instead. You pay a hundred dollars through an order gathering site, that site keeps twenty to fifty of it, delivery and GST come out of what is left, and the florist is building your arrangement on maybe forty five dollars of actual flowers. Then everyone is surprised it does not look like the photograph. Ours runs the other way. Your money buys more flowers here, not fewer, because the florist builds our commission into the bunch instead of taking it out of one. It is also why the partners stay. Pauline and Tina have been with us in Taree for over fifteen years, Kathy in Port Macquarie nearly as long, and our Toowoomba partner sent us a thank you gift twelve years ago and has posted birthday hampers every year since without ever being asked. More than fifty partner florists cover Brisbane now, and the south west corner has been in the network since 2013.
The other thing Rocklea gives a florist working this corner is reach. The roses come down off Sunshine Coast farms around Eumundi, the gerberas and chrysanthemums off family growers in the Redlands, and the tropical stems, anthurium, heliconia, bird of paradise, come south out of Far North Queensland through the same floor. A Melbourne florist can only get those by air freight. It matters more in Forest Lake than it would in most suburbs, because a lot of what gets ordered into 4078 is going to households whose idea of a flower did not grow up in a European garden.
None of them is a shopfront on Forest Lake Boulevard. There is no shopfront on Forest Lake Boulevard. They are close enough to run the suburb properly, and thirteen years is long enough to have learned which streets in an estate this size have a driveway you can actually stop in. What has changed is the plumbing. In 2009 we typed every order into a Word document and faxed it through. Yes, faxed. Now it is on the florist's screen before you have closed the tab, and if that happened before 2pm on a weekday or 10am on a Saturday, it goes out the same day. The Saturday cutoff being 10am and not 2pm is not us being difficult, by the way. Rocklea shuts at midday on a Saturday. Order after ten and the florist has nothing left to buy.
Four things get sent here more than anything else, and the reason is sitting in the census. Couple families with children run at 49.2 per cent of Forest Lake households against 41.2 per cent for Queensland, and 51.8 per cent of the dwellings have four bedrooms or more against a state figure of 38.8. A suburb of full houses. Birthdays, new babies, funerals and the aged care run, roughly in that order. November adds a spike of formal and graduation flowers out of the two high schools. If you are marking something that fits none of those, the celebration range is the wider net.
The birthday is today, you are not in Brisbane, and the house you are sending to has nobody standing in it until well after five. That is the ordinary shape of a birthday order for Mum out here, and it is worth planning around.
Put a safe spot in the delivery notes. Under the front porch, behind the side gate, with the neighbour on the left by name. Our florists ask for a safe spot on Forest Lake addresses more than they do on the rail suburbs north of the river, and the reason is in the commuting data: two per cent of this suburb takes a train and six in ten drive to work on their own, so nobody is walking back from a station at half five. A workplace reception is the other honest answer if you know the day is a long one.
There is a second birthday shape out here and it is the milestone one. This is a suburb that has not turned over since 2016, so the people who bought in during the nineties are having their sixtieths and seventieths in the same houses they raised the kids in, and those orders come from adult children who moved interstate. A 60th wants a different bunch from a friend's birthday. Bigger, more formal, and built to survive being photographed by six people.
Anna would rather you changed the flowers than the delivery time.
A porch in January is a warm cupboard with the door left open. Send something that does not mind waiting. Chrysanthemum, carnation, a leucadendron or two through the middle for structure. Carnations are unfashionable and close to impossible to kill, with one exception nobody warns you about: keep them off the kitchen bench if there is fruit on it. Ripening bananas throw off ethylene and a carnation next to a fruit bowl curls up in three days instead of three weeks. Different room is enough. Skip the hydrangea. One to five days at thirty degrees is not a birthday present, it is a countdown.
One more thing on the chrysanthemum, because I recommend it more than any other stem for this climate and it comes with a catch. In Chinese culture chrysanthemums are funeral flowers, full stop. Roughly one home in forty here speaks Mandarin, and sending a birthday bunch built on chrysanthemums into one of those houses says the opposite of what you meant. If that is where it is going, roses.
They are buried in visitors and running on no sleep, so anything turning up in that room has to earn the space it takes. There is no maternity ward inside Forest Lake, so a new baby order is nearly always going to a hospital somewhere else, most often QEII Jubilee at Coopers Plains, or the Mater across town, and you may not have been told the ward.
From what our florists have seen, hospital flowers go to a reception desk before they go anywhere near the bedside, and a ward clerk or a volunteer walks them through, usually inside a few hours, not minutes. Put the mother's full name and the ward on the order, not the baby's. The baby does not have a name in that system yet. Same applies to a get well delivery for anyone else on a ward. On the card, short is better than clever. "Congratulations. Sleep when you can."
I know that process from the other end of it. Back when we still had the shop I did the hospital runs myself, and the one that has stuck is Murwillumbah on a thirty seven degree afternoon, our eldest screaming in the back seat, five minutes to get the flowers to reception and nowhere on the street to park. Imagine that feeling. Every line on this page about ward desks and reception logs was written by someone who has stood at one of them sweating with a baby on her hip.
One thing worth checking before you order. Children out of postcode 4078 tend to be routed to the Queensland Children's Hospital on the city side rather than to a Metro South ward, so a delivery for a sick child and a delivery for a new baby can be going to two different hospitals on opposite sides of Brisbane. Read the hospital name off the message someone sent you. Do not assume it is the same one, and with a children's hospital in particular, ring the ward before you order. They vary more than adult wards do on what they will take. Worth knowing too: the florist delivers in business hours, not visiting hours, so nobody has to be at the bedside for it to arrive.
Before anything else: wait until they are on a ward. Every hospital I have dealt with refuses flowers in intensive care, and the same goes for burns, oncology, haematology, transplant and infectious diseases. A special care nursery will not take them either, which is the one that catches new grandparents out. Order before the patient has a ward and a bed number and the arrangement waits at the front desk with nobody's name on it.
Then, no lilies. The pollen is airborne and it transfers on staff clothing between rooms, so even if your person is fine with it the woman two beds over might not be. What most people do not know is that pollen-free Asiatic varieties exist, bred with no anthers at all, and they are unscented into the bargain. Same look, none of the risk. The florist just has to be told to pick them. And a peace lily is not a lily. Different genus entirely, no toxic pollen, no perfume. So is an orchid.
Box or vase, never a hand tied bunch in paper. Nobody on a maternity ward has scissors and a spare vase, and the clerk is not going to go hunting for one, so a wrapped bunch stays in its plastic until a visitor turns up with a container. Compact, low fragrance, gerbera and spray rose with a bit of green. Gerberas want clean water more than most, because the hollow stem is the weak point, not the heat, and keep the vase off the air conditioning vent or the neck bends inside two days.
There is no cemetery and no funeral home inside the suburb. Services run out at Centenary Memorial Gardens at Sumner, roughly ten minutes up the road, or further out again, and a fair share of them never go near a chapel at all. Flowers do not fix the week that family is having. They put your name in the room while you are somewhere else.
The harder part is which door. Four funeral traditions run inside this one postcode and what is correct at one address is wrong at the next, which is why the colour chart further up this page exists. At three of those doors white is right. At the fourth, a Hindu funeral, the family arranges the garlands themselves and an outsider sends food to the house instead. If you do not know which tradition the family keeps, put that in the order notes and let the florist ask. Guessing is where this goes wrong, and from what our florists have seen the guess that comes up most is red. The funeral range covers the sheaths and wreaths if the service is the destination.
Red is the one to keep out. At a Buddhist service it reads as celebration and at a Vietnamese wake it reads the same way, so a single red filler rose tucked into an otherwise white sheath undoes the whole thing. White is the safe overlap and yellow is welcome at a Buddhist service. If the family is holding the wake at home, and Vietnamese families commonly do for three to five days, the flowers want to arrive before or during it rather than after the funeral, which is the opposite of the Western default. Write the tradition into the order notes and the florist will build to it. On the card, take the extra minute. The flowers will be gone inside a fortnight and the card will not be. Sympathy cards get kept, in a drawer or under a magnet on the fridge, long after everything else has been cleared away. "With deepest sympathy" travels everywhere and assumes nothing.
Seven in ten households in Forest Lake own the place they live in, and the population has not moved since 2016. This is a suburb people stayed in, which means the person you are thinking about has probably been at the same address for twenty years and the one who moved is you. There is a 151-bed care community on the edge of the suburb and a wider ring of them at Durack, Parkinson, Algester and Sunnybank Hills, and a solid share of what goes into this postcode ends up in one of those rooms, ordered from another city.
Delivery goes to the reception desk, never straight to the room. Staff carry it through and the card gets left with it. If the resident has changed wings recently, ring the facility before you order, because reception will know and your delivery notes will not. And the flowers may well land harder with you than with them. Send them anyway. On the card, write both names out in full, theirs and yours. In a room where the days run together, a card signed love from us is a puzzle, not a message. Daisies and roses are the two stems residents recognise without being told what they are, and the daisy range is built on exactly that.
Box, not a vase, and never a bunch in paper. A vase tips. In a shared room with a bedside table the width of a dinner plate, a tipped vase is somebody else's problem at two in the morning, and staff quietly move it to a windowsill where nobody sees it again. A boxed arrangement holds its own water, stays flat, and cannot be knocked over by a walker frame. Keep the fragrance down while you are at it. A room that small turns an oriental lily into the only thing anyone can smell for a week, and residents with dementia in particular do better with a stem they already know than with something impressive they do not. There is a harder reason to stay with the familiar ones as well. A resident with advanced dementia may try to eat the flowers or drink the vase water, so oleander, foxglove, lily of the valley and anything grown from a bulb are out. Roses, daisies, lavender. Nothing exotic.
Order before 2pm today and it is at their door this afternoon.
Browse Birthday FlowersNone of those four is your situation. That happens far more often than a page full of categories suggests, and you do not owe anyone a category to send someone flowers.
Andrew's first ever call about flowers was a woman firing three quick questions at him down the line. He looked at me across the store room where I was changing the baby and said into the phone, hang on, I will just check with my wife. Neither of us had the faintest idea. We owned a flower shop. So if you have got this far and still do not know what to send, you are in better company than you think.
I would send it in a vase and not wrapped in paper, because that removes the one job the person on the other end has to do, and in a house where everybody is out until six it means nothing is sitting in cellophane on a bench for four hours. A mid range mixed vase built on chrysanthemum and gerbera, with a couple of roses through it for colour, is the one I would put my name to here in any month.
On what to spend, the honest read on this suburb is that the middle is the right call here. Household income in Forest Lake runs about fifteen per cent above the Queensland median, which is a real premium and a modest one, on a street of four bedroom mortgages. Nobody here is measuring the bunch. The under sixty range covers it and it does not look like an under sixty spend once it is on a table, which is the only version of that worry worth having.
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Flower delivery to Forest Lake runs Monday to Saturday, covers the 4078 band and the addresses either side of it at Doolandella, Ellen Grove and Durack, and it goes to houses far more often than it goes to anything with a lobby.
1300 360 469
7am to 6pm weekdays
10am Saturdays
Or order online any time.
2pm weekdays, 10am Saturdays, no Sunday delivery. Nothing is sitting in stock waiting for you: the bunch gets built the morning it goes out. From November to March, earlier is better than exact. A 9am order is on a morning run. A 1:55pm order is on the last one, in the hottest part of the day.
Driveways and side gates, not lobbies and intercoms. Almost every dwelling here is a house. Forest Lake Boulevard slows to a crawl around the four school zones twice a day, and the Ipswich Motorway run is the other timing variable.
Forest Lake runs on cars, which means the average front door here is unattended across a longer and more predictable stretch of the day than it would be in a suburb with a station. Fine for nine months of the year. From November to March it is the single thing most worth thinking about, because a north facing step at one in the afternoon runs well above the air temperature and a wrapped bouquet has no water in it. Two things fix it, and either one is enough. Name a shaded safe spot in the delivery notes, off the concrete and out of the wind. Or send it to a workplace reception instead and let them carry it home in an air conditioned car. Order before 2pm today and the flowers are at the door this afternoon.
Once you press order it goes into our system, gets matched to a partner florist in or close to Forest Lake, and goes out to them as a paid order with your card message attached. It gets built that day from what came in at market that morning, which is also the reason the arrangement will not be a pixel copy of the photograph you clicked on.
If you are wondering why a business on the far north coast of New South Wales is the one sending flowers into a Brisbane suburb, we did not plan it that way. When we bought the Kingscliff shop in 2006 the previous owner had left a Yellow Pages ad running. The book. The phone rang twenty times a day with people wanting flowers in Taree, Coffs Harbour, Canberra and Townsville, places we had no way of reaching, and for the better part of a year we resented every one of those calls. Then it landed on us that the calls were the business and not the interruption.
If you want to know where it is, ring 1300 360 469 between 7am and 6pm on a weekday or up to 10am on a Saturday, or email [email protected]. Ringing is faster. Email is slower than you want it to be when the delivery is happening this afternoon. If what you want is simply to know it landed, ring and we will check with the florist while you are on the line. A wilted bunch is fixable. An unanswered phone is not, which is why the number goes to a person and not a recording.
The thing we hear about most is not a late delivery. It is that the arrangement did not match the picture. Most of the time that is a substitution, and most substitutions are legitimate: the florist could not get that exact stem at Rocklea that morning and swapped in the best comparable thing instead of an older one that matched the photo. Sometimes it is not legitimate and the swap was lazy. I cannot tell which from here, and neither can you from the photo. So send it through the same day and I will ring the florist and ask. I have had that conversation a few hundred times now. It is fixable on the day. Much less fixable on the Thursday.
One more thing, and then we will leave you alone. If you have not heard back from the person you sent them to, give it a day. People are mid something, or asleep, or on a ward with the phone in a drawer. Silence is not a review.
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