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Raglan Flowers, Same-Day to a Village With No Florist

Somebody stayed. You went. There is no florist in Raglan to walk into, so one in or near the village builds it that morning and drives it in. Four in five houses here are owned by the people in them, and whoever you are sending to probably has not moved since you did. Tell us where to leave them if nobody is home. A July porch here is frosted by dawn. I am Andrew. Anna will tell you what to send. In by 2pm weekdays, 10am Saturdays, and they are at the door doing what you would be there doing yourself. After 2pm, it is tomorrow.

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Thank you, Jenny. A business can be set up to be efficient. Going further than that is a person deciding to, usually when nobody is watching and the sale is already made, so I'm pleased whoever took your call did it. I'll see that it gets passed on. Raglan is a small place east of Bathurst, and villages like that are where a wrong turn or a vague address costs real time, so it pays to have the details drawn out of you properly on the phone rather than guessed at later. Good to hear you'd come back. Thanks for writing.

Andrew & Siobhan, Lily's Florist

Why the Frost in Raglan Only Ever Beats One Kind of Flower

Anna, qualified florist | Fifteen years on the bench, three of them on the phones, telling people the cold is not the thing that kills their flowers

The myth I spent years killing on the phones was that frost is bad news for a bouquet. The refrigerated truck that carries roses, lilies and tulips to market runs at 2 to 4 degrees. That is colder than a Raglan winter morning. Cold is the industry standard for a temperate flower, and at 737 metres Raglan hands every one of them a longer run than a warm suburb would. The exception is narrow, and it is absolute.

Orchids, anthuriums, tropical foliage. Those ride at 10 to 12 degrees and never lower, because somewhere below 8 the cold starts wrecking their cell membranes from the inside. Florists call it chilling injury, which is a polite way of saying the cell walls give up. You do not see it on the doorstep. You see it a day later, when translucent water-soaked patches spread across the petal and the bloom goes limp with no warning at all. July mornings here average around 0.2 to 0.5 degrees. An hour on a frosted porch does what a 35 degree afternoon needs a full day to do.

A bloke rang from Cairns one July. Cymbidium orchid, for his mother in Raglan. Tropical was what he knew, so tropical was what he assumed was good. I steered him onto a chrysanthemum in a box and told him the orchid would have been a corpse by Saturday. He was not thrilled with me. The galling part, and I told him this too, is that he was half right. A cymbidium inside a cool Raglan lounge room will outlast anything else I could sell him. Three or four weeks of it. Best flower you can send to that address. It just cannot spend one hour getting there. Not a Cairns problem, that one. People send the weather they live in.

So: tropicals to Raglan between May and September, either somebody is home or it does not go. Everything else, the cold is doing you a favour. What will actually kill your flowers in a Raglan kitchen is the fruit bowl. Carnations parked next to ripening bananas curl up inside a day and nobody ever connects the two. Different room. That is the whole fix. The rest of it I have put underneath this. Ten stems, two columns, one bad row.

The only stems a Raglan frost beats are the tropical ones

Temperate stems ride to market at 2 to 4 degrees. July mornings at 737 metres sit around 0.2 to 0.5. January afternoons hit 28 to 30 with almost no moisture in the air. Same doorstep, opposite problems.

Stem
July frost
Jan dry heat
Chrysanthemum18 to 30 days in a cool room
HOLDS
HOLDS
CarnationWaxy petal. Keep it away from the fruit bowl
HOLDS
HOLDS
Wattle and everlastingsWattle flushes late this high up
HOLDS
HOLDS
RoseKeep it off a west-facing porch after lunch
HOLDS
WATCH IT
AlstroemeriaCheap, long-lasting, underrated. Sulks above 20
HOLDS
WATCH IT
Tulip and ranunculusIn season and cheapest June to August
HOLDS
NO
GerberaBends at the neck in warmth
HOLDS
NO
HydrangeaEvery degree over 21 lifts its water loss about 7%
HOLDS
NO
Sweet pea, freesia, delphiniumCool-season stems. Keep the vase off the heater
HOLDS
NO
Orchid, anthurium, tropical foliageWill not travel below 10 to 12 degrees
NO
HOLDS
HOLDS Send it, no special handling WATCH IT Fine, but keep it off an afternoon porch NO Pick something else that season

What Happens When You Order Flowers to a Village With No Florist

There has never been a florist in Raglan. No shop, no cool room, no bucket out the back. Your flowers get made by a partner florist in or close to Raglan and driven in, which is a very different thing from a box shipped out of a warehouse.

What happens to an order once it lands in the network. I drew this on the office chalkboard years ago and we have never improved on it.

What happens to your order when it hits the Lily's Florist network

The difference is days. A box-shipped bunch got picked and packed before it ever went near a truck, and it spends the trip in the dark in a cardboard carton. The one going to Raglan gets built the morning it lands, about an hour up the road. Same flower, two very different starting points. Anna can tell you what those two days cost you. I just know we have never owned a warehouse and are not about to start.

The other question I get is who the florist actually is, and whether we picked them because they were cheapest that week. We did not. We do not charge a florist a cent to sit on this page. They add a few more stems to cover a commission we are up front with them about, and every order this page takes goes to them. Same deal since 2009, same deal now. It was never a clever arrangement, just the one we made in a hurry and never found a reason to change.

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You order by 2pm, or you ring and a person picks up
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It lands with the partner florist as a paid order, your card message already on it
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Built that morning out of whatever came into the cool room that day
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Into the van and west along the highway, past the school, into the village
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Handed over at the door, or left in the spot you named

Three Orders Keep Coming Back to This Postcode

Three orders account for most of what we send here. A village of 1,272 people does not generate much variety, which makes choosing the easy part and addressing the hard one. If you live in Raglan yourself and you are reading this because there is nowhere in town to walk into, the same three apply. You are just closer to the door than most of the people ordering.

The Family Is in Raglan and the Service Is in Bathurst

Funeral or family home. Two different gestures, and out here they are two different towns. Flowers will not touch what has happened. You know that. They go anyway, because the alternative is that nothing arrives at all.

There is no cemetery in the village and no funeral home either, so a tribute for the service goes to the funeral director with the date and the chapel named on the order, and it has to be there before things start, which means allowing for the drive out. Our partner florist runs that road most weeks and builds the buffer in without being asked. Condolence flowers to the house are the other call entirely, and they can land any time in the first few days. In a place of 1,272 people the address is usually known to half the street before you have finished ordering.

Nearly half the village is Catholic or Anglican. Catholic families here tend to come back at the anniversary and again at the memorial dates. Same family, same grief, a year further on. St James' on Nelson Street runs a service six times a year, first Sunday of the odd months, alternating with Peel. On the mornings it is open, one arrangement on that table is most of the flowers in the building. There is nowhere for it to hide. If the card is the bit you are stuck on, "thinking of you all" is enough. It always has been.

Anna, qualified florist

White and soft-toned is what most families here expect, and red is perfectly fine in this tradition, which catches out people who have read something about flower colour on the internet. I fielded that one hundreds of times on the phones and the answer never shifted. Two things I would ask first. About one person in fourteen in Raglan is Wiradjuri, and if the family is Aboriginal then the only right move is to ask them what they want. Every community handles it differently and some do not want flowers at all. Where they are welcome, natives carry weight an imported rose never will. Wattle for love and friendship. Waratah for honouring an Elder.

The second thing is format. A casket spray and a bunch for a kitchen bench are built to do completely different jobs. The one going to the house has to survive a week of people coming and going with nobody remembering to change the water, so chrysanthemum every time. Eighteen to thirty days in a cool room. It will still be standing when the last casserole dish goes home.

Raglan Is a Stay-Put Town and You Are the One Who Went

It has been a while. Long enough that a phone call now would have to open with an apology, which is most likely why you are looking at thinking of you flowers instead of dialling. And you have no idea how it lands. Two years of quiet, and a bunch of flowers either opens the door or points straight at the quiet. You do not find out which until they ring.

Only about one home in six here is rented. People buy young, often their first house, and a decade later they are still in it paying it off. The practical upshot is that the address you half remember is very probably still the right one. Our order history says the same thing from the other direction: the flowers coming into this postcode arrive from Sydney and the coast, and they go to the same handful of streets, year after year.

We did the same thing, for whatever it is worth. Left Sydney in 2006, said our goodbyes to everyone, and I have spent the seventeen years since sending other people's flowers back to the places they left. You do not need an occasion for it either. No reason is a reason. If the card is what is stopping you, "just wanted you to know I am thinking of you" has never once been the wrong thing to write.

The ones that landed best were never the biggest. A woman in Newcastle rang me every few months for her mother. There was no occasion attached to it, ever. She asked for the same thing each time: small, and something the old girl would not have picked for herself. By the second year I had it ready before she got to the end of her sentence. Alstroemeria, mostly. Cheap, long-lasting and underrated is the honest summary of it. Fourteen to twenty-one days in a cool room, and it actively sulks above twenty degrees, which is why it does so well where the mornings are cold and so badly where they are not.

Give Workplace Flowers a Name and a Department

An apprenticeship signed off. Thirty years on the same line. A retirement everybody saw coming and nobody wants to mention out loud. This is a trades town, roughly one worker in six, with another one in ten operating machinery, and those milestones are real occasions even though no greeting card company has got around to them. The hard part is pitching it right for somebody you work beside rather than somebody you love. Mid-range and specific beats big and vague, every time.

The pet food plant on Adrienne Street, about 180 people through the gate, and the airport on PJ Moodie Drive, both sit inside Raglan and share a postcode with the houses, which is what catches senders out. Put the recipient's name and their department in the delivery notes and a thank you bunch gets walked in to reception. Put a company name on its own and it waits at a gate while somebody works out whose it is. Our florists ask for the department before they load the van. They have seen both versions. Same goes for anything marking a promotion or a send-off.

Do not send the big one to a workplace. Everyone reaches for it. Wrong instinct. A tall arrangement on a reception counter is somebody's problem for the rest of the day, and it is going home on a ute tray at knock-off, which nothing soft-petalled survives. Something in a box, low centre, no water to slosh about. Carnations. The waxy petal does not care about a ute tray or a dry afternoon, and it will still be going when the next pay run comes around.

Order before 2pm and the flowers are at the address this afternoon.

Browse Flower Bunches

What If the Order You Are Placing Is Not on That List?

None of those three fit. Fine. Categories are for websites. Most orders fit a person. This is where I hand over to Anna. She took these calls.

Give me a season and I can give you an answer. June through August is the best window this district gets all year and almost nobody uses it. Tulips and ranunculus are in, they are cheap, and they were built for a climate exactly like this one. Order a mixed bunch with tulips in it through winter and you are getting the strongest stem on the bench at the lowest price of the year, which is a combination you rarely see in this trade. Any other month, ask for a florist's choice bunch and let them lead on carnation. Thirty-five to eighty cents a stem at wholesale, and it outlasts nearly everything sitting next to it. Best value on the bench and almost nobody asks for it.

The Day It Turned, and the Word We Got Wrong

We wrote in our own About Us page that the day everything changed for us was a frosty June morning in Kingscliff. Anyone in Raglan reading that would put their tea down. Kingscliff does not get frost.

Twenty-five dollars in sales for the entire day, most of it discounted soap. Twenty-five phone calls for flowers to towns we did not service. On the twenty-fifth one, Siobhan and I looked at each other and worked out that the calls were the business and the shop was not. Everything since came out of that morning. The network, the 800-plus florists, this page.

So I use the word carefully now. A cold snap in Kingscliff is a jumper. Raglan gets about a hundred frosts a year and the ground goes white. Same word, two entirely different mornings, and only one of them changes what you should put in a box.

How to Order Flowers to Raglan

Phone

1300 360 469
7am to 6pm weekdays
10am Saturdays
Or order online any time.

Same Day Cutoff

2pm weekdays, 10am Saturdays, nothing on Sundays. Two things to know here. Nelson Street clogs either side of the school bell, so a mid-morning slot beats a 3pm one. And the Bathurst 1000 runs 8 to 11 October, when race traffic funnels straight past the village on the highway. Order the day before during that week.

Delivery $16.95

$16.95, and it does not climb because Raglan is two hundred kilometres from the market. The fee pays for a van doing the run out from town, which is the only thing standing between a cool room and a front door. Almost every address here is a standalone house with a driveway and a letterbox.

The Raglan Doorstep, Winter and Summer

This is the part to read twice, because it is the one thing that goes wrong here. May to September the porch is frosted most mornings. December to February it is 28 to 30C by early afternoon with barely any moisture in the air to slow the drying down. The timing rule flips with the season, and almost nobody thinks to ask about it.

Through summer, take the morning slot and beat the heat. In deep winter, take the later one: the frost has lifted by then and the heat never arrives, so a bouquet that would have sat on ice at 9am rides in warm at 2. Order before 2pm today and the flowers are at the door this afternoon.

Four Raglan addresses, four different sets of delivery notes

Postcode 2795 covers a village of standalone houses, a pet food plant, an airport, and a short run east into town. Pick the one you are sending to.

Nelson, Moodie, Hartley, Alexander Street

Put a safe spot in the notes. Say which side of the house.

Roughly 99 in 100 dwellings here are standalone houses, with about 2.5 cars per dwelling. There is no intercom to buzz, no concierge, no lift lobby and no parcel locker. Getting to the door is the easy part here.

Whether anyone answers it is the hard part, in a village where most households are out working. Name a spot that is sheltered in winter and shaded in summer and the florist will use it. Out here that beats any access code.

Adrienne Street and PJ Moodie Drive

Name the person and their department in the delivery notes.

The pet food plant has been running here since 1978, and the airport shares its postcode with the houses down the road.

Sent to reception with a named recipient and a department, it gets walked in. Sent to a company name on its own, it waits at a gate while somebody works out whose it is.

Service flowers leave the village

Give us the funeral director, the service date and the chapel.

No cemetery and no funeral home in Raglan. Services run out of Bathurst, so tributes go to the director rather than a family address, and they need to be there before the service starts.

Condolence flowers are the opposite call. Those go to the family home here in the village, any time across the first few days. Two different gestures, two different addresses.

The regional hospital, a short run east

Full patient name plus the ward. Address it to the mother rather than the baby.

Raglan has no GP and no hospital of its own, so the regional hospital east of the village is where the get well and new baby orders land. From what our florists have seen, flowers go to reception, a ward clerk logs them, and staff carry them through to the bedside within a few hours.

Skip the lilies. Wait until the patient is on a general ward, because critical care does not take flowers anywhere our florists deal with, and the special care nursery tends to be the same. A vase or a box beats a hand-tied bunch. Hospitals do not keep spare vases, so a wrapped bunch sits in its paper until a visitor turns up with a container.

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After You Order

Your order lands in our system, gets matched to a partner florist in or near Raglan, and goes across to them as a paid job with your card message already on it. They build it that morning out of whatever came into their cool room. Nobody at our end touches a flower. We have never had a warehouse and we are not about to put one up at 737 metres.

If it turns up wrong, email a photo to [email protected] the same day, or ring 1300 360 469 between 7am and 6pm on a weekday, 10am on a Saturday. Same day, while there is still something we can do about it. Not Thursday.

Siobhan, on the bit we got wrong for years

The complaint we used to get out of cold country and never properly understood was the doorstep one. Flowers left out, nobody home, and by the time anyone found them the damage was done and everybody blamed the florist (it was us, we just were not asking the right question). So now we ask it. Where do we leave them if nobody answers. It is on the order form and it is the single most useful line on the whole thing. Please fill it in. The entire point of the exercise is that you cannot be there, so the flowers have to stand in for you, and they cannot do that from a frosted porch.

One last thing. If they have not texted you a photo by the evening, it is normal. It is not a verdict. Anna fielded that one more than any other call she took: they have not rung, what does it mean. It usually means somebody put the flowers in water and got on with their day. Ring us if you want to know it landed.

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About the Author

Andrew and Siobhan Thomson, co-founders of Lily's Florist
Andrew Thomson
Co-founder, Lily's Florist

Siobhan and I started this in 2009 with a list of towns and not much else. Seventeen years on there are 800-plus partner florists and it is still the two of us, plus Anna, plus a phone team over in Armidale. What I have on Raglan is the order data, and it says something quite specific. The flowers going into this postcode almost all come from somewhere else, sent by people who used to live in it.

Which is the job, as far as I am concerned. Not selling flowers. Getting somebody who left back into a room they are not standing in. The full story, the shop, the fax machine, the frosty June morning, all of it is on our About Us page.

Our Kingscliff shop

The original Kingscliff shop, bought 2006. The brand and the network came three years later.